Private Home Rentals in Big Bear

Okay, the Private Home Rental (PHR) issue is causing a lot of ruckus around these parts so I am going to touch on it.

Fortunately, we don’t have too many PHRs over in Fawnskin. Usually friends of home owners or the homeowners themselves are the ones using places here.

Thank goodness for small favors.

However I have a few pals who have the great misfortune of living next to private home rentals. What is the big deal you say?

  • Excessive occupancy–allowing at least FIVE people per bedroom.
  • Trashing the neighborhood–people leave trash out for the critters because they don’t pack it out.
  • Noise ordinance violations–big party animals in the hood.
  • Illegal parking–in the road, in the neighbors driveways.
  • Trespassing–snow filled yards and decks of private property seem to be fair game…not to mention off limit sensitive habitat.

Now, I am sure there are those of you who have their own comments to leave–*snicker*

Go ahead…I double dare you!

On the business end, I want to know why private home rentals should be given any kind of a break when the rest of us have to file business licenses, hold insurance, and pay the related fees and taxes associated with doing business?

This valley has turned its head when it comes to many different issues…and this is one that is not going away. It isn’t really and “us and them” situation but one of equity in the business realm.

Want to read more? View this PHR letter to the Editor at Bear Valley News

January PHR article in the Big Bear Grizzly

January article at Bear Valley News

February 6th article on the PHR rental initiative challenge

Now I have to head out in a few minutes but just wanted to make a parting statement….one of my neighbors shared the problems they had with a rental run by a local agency. Theft, damage, and excessive occupancy were just some of the issues. The rental agency was not proactive in looking after their interests.

This should be no surprise…and to hell with the neighbors. I get sick of situations where the rights of a few outnumber the rights of the many….but I digress AGAIN!

This town is dominated by real estate interests and people have bent over backwards to get along with their neighbors and keep with the town status quo. I want to know what YOUR opinions are on this matter. (Also any links you want to share…)

Personally, I applaud those moving forward on this issue because it is not easy and it is tough to take an unpopular stand around these parts.

This is not to say that I agree with all parties but what I do agree with, is the fact that something has to change…and like it or not, change is in the air.



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9 Responses to “Private Home Rentals in Big Bear

  • 1
    Debbie
    February 8th, 2008 11:05

    As a “flatlander” from Orange County who reads your blog consistantly I felt I just had to comment on this issue. My husband and I visited Big Bear regularly-at least 6-8 times a year. Last year we were blessed to rescue a sweet german shepard and decided to take him with us to visit. The place we ususally stay does not allow dogs so we searched the internet and found what appeared to be a nice condo called Orsi’s Den located just past Boulder Bay area. We arrived after dark and discovered there was no front porch light. We also discovered the front door lock was broken and you could just push the door in. Unfortunately this was just the beginning of what we discovered inside. The inside was filthy, old rotten food in the kitchen, caked on food left in pots and pans, the rug was so filthy we had to constantly have shoes on and the mold on the walls required leaving the windows open so air out the stink. Too bad we bought light bulbs for the inside lamps-it would have been better to not see the condition of the place. Anyway-I emailed the rental agency describing the conditions and advising them of our dissatisfaction with the rental. They never responded. The only response we got was several months later they sent us an advertisement. I guess the point of this is it’s not just your local residents who have been “wronged” by the rental industry up there. My husband and I are responsible people, have a well behaved dog, love the Big Bear area but are now reluctant to come up there with our dog again.

  • 2
    GG
    February 8th, 2008 18:20

    Wow, I am really disappointed to hear about your experience. Big Bear tends to be very dog friendly and there are some great places to stay. Thanks for sharing your experience…I know we sometimes get too into the locals’ experiences but most of us were visitors at one time too.

  • 3
    SKIMODE
    February 11th, 2008 12:59

    I have just visited Fawnskin, in a rental property on Garden Place and I would like to tell you that, even though, we were a group of 14, with 6 kids, everyone was well behaved and I was told repeatedly, by the rental agency that no “house” parties are allowed and the noise level should be down after 9pm….
    I love your community and I understand your rights to protect it, I would do the same.
    I respect the people living in the mountain communities and I hope the same respect is returned, even if we don’t have the priviledge of living in your area.

  • 4
    david, 7000 feet up
    February 11th, 2008 22:12

    big bear would be nice, if it were not for all the people! hehe

  • 5
    david, 7000 feet up
    February 11th, 2008 22:15

    gg, tell debbie that she and her hubby and her dog are welcome anytime at my place, not the cleanest, but a far sight better than the place described. uggh

  • 6
    GG (Gossip Girl)
    February 12th, 2008 08:08

    @Skimode: Thanks for dropping by. So it probably wasn’t your group that had the Lexis that was illegally parked on Garden…Not all visitors are lousy. We don’t have many bad ones over here BUT it is a rampant problem throughout the area which is why so many locals want the laws and the enforcement of those laws. We respect the right of individual property owners IF they adhere to the same laws as everyone else renting places. And, I am glad to hear that your rental company stressed the importance of adhering to the local laws.

    @David: Silly boy! Maybe Debbie has subscribed and will get your message. Are you still in contact with all the Mtn Social Links gang?

  • 7
    SKIMODE
    February 12th, 2008 12:49

    GG, we had a Lexus in our group! We had four cars total
    and the last one in the driveway was a Lexus, but it
    was at least 4-5 feet away from the street……
    First I was told “OK to use the garage” but arriving at
    the property the garage was locked and I was told “Sorry, but the owners don’t allow it!”….
    It look like the city ordinance allows 4 cars in the driveway…..

  • 8
    GG (Gossip Girl)
    February 13th, 2008 10:44

    @SKIMODE: Sorry to say you were misinformed. This area is _county_ not city and so none of those regulations (like you experience down the hill or in Big Bear Lake) apply that I know of. Unfortunately, we do not have any “off the street” parking. Our streets go from edge to edge except in rare where there might be a turnoff. The Lexus did in fact block the uphill lane. I personally walked by in the morning, and later watched cars swerve over the double yellow line to pass. Since I use the road for walking and driving, I also watched two cars miss collision at the curve not too far beyond where it was parked–fortunately the cars could see each others headlights…you know, GG sees all, hears all…and pretends to know it all, too. 😉

  • 9
    SKIMODE
    February 13th, 2008 12:53

    Hi GG, we are obviosly talking about different cars, but same make…The Lexus(white) in my group was in a driveway, not in a roadway, I don’t think Garden Place has a double yellow line being such a small street as it is…so the only way that you have passed this Lexus is only if you would have went inside the house at 39326 Garden Place….which has an ordinance posted on the house:4 cars only and 11 guests! …Sounds like a Fawnskin ordinance…..