Amangela’s & Other Biz News

Above: Amangela’s Annouces Their Beer & Wine License

Despite what people want to believe, I don’t find the Big Bear Valley to be very business friendly. Now that I mentioned it, the county doesn’t seem to be very helpful either.

We all know that many new business owners who have taken over operating establishments only to get hit with code enforcement and a variety of other technicalities.

Amanda and Angela have managed to do pretty well jumping through the hoops. I had to laugh when they were told that there never was a business in the building! I know of at least five since I moved into the valley!

BTW: You may have noticed that Amangela’s now serves beer and wine.

The duo is working on locating a distributor that will allow micro brews and more selections. In the meantime, the deck has been gated to keep the alcohol drinking crowds confined to the patio.

Their winter hours went into effect so now you can find Amangela’s open from 8am until 4pm –except for Thursday when they are closed.

Get the Burger & Other Business Nonsense

I heard that Eric over at Get the Burger had his rent increased and that it isn’t going to work for him so he will be closing at the end of the month.


Get the Burger produces great product and many locals believe that it even rivals the In and Out brand so popular here in Southern California.

With all the empty commercial businesses I’d hope he would find one to meet his needs. But it doesn’t look like it.

Now this got me thinking about the issue I keep hearing about–insane rents.

So, I have to ask,

Are Big Bear landlords ignorant of just how many commercial buildings in this area are empty?

Do they even know about the economic challenges some business are facing at the moment?

Sol Food Market recently moved to Big Bear Lake next to the Alpine Center because of rent.

Plus, I can’t believe the prices they are charging for business rents in this area. You can go down the hill and get into a new or very well maintained facility with tons more traffic for the same money–or less.

I know one village business that had a rent of $4000 per month. Then there is the business owner that got into a village lease in an asbestos filled building. The tenant got into a triple net lease and so made the changes–all before being able to move and open which isn’t exactly a great way to get started in a new location!

How about rentals in the Interlaken Center? There is a prime location that has remained empty for over a year and a half because they want insane amounts of money…$2.50 per square foot and triple net and now I hear that Haus & Home is closing to leave another empty space.

The current assessment of square footage according to some sources is more like $0.99 per square foot

Sheesh, what a difference.

So, what you think of all the business movements and closures? Do you think business rents up here are too high?

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5 Responses to “Amangela’s & Other Biz News

  • 1
    Part Timer Larry
    November 18th, 2008 09:32

    We were in Get A Burger on Saturday and it seems they’ll be moving, not closing. They seemed pretty upbeat, except for the boycott CATS poster. We thought CATS theater was taking over their space.

    And yes, we saw the big “Retirement Sale” banner at Haus and Home. I guess they are too posh to call it a closing out or liquidation sale. We never liked that place. Too costly and horrible customer service. I always wondered why BBL didn’t have just a down home furniture place where we could get decent stuff for our cabin. Interiors isn’t much better that H&H. Most of our stuff comes from yard sales or the smaller vendors along Moonridge or BB Blvd. They may not be the cheapest but they tend to be more customer friendly.

  • 2
    GG (Gossip Girl)
    November 20th, 2008 07:59

    I haven’t spoke to Eric but there was a falling out between CATS over the agreement on donating to the group on a monthly basis from what I understand. It would be great it he did move and didn’t close.

    As for Interlaken the rents have been raised to $2.75 per sq foot and I’ve heard that they are seeking a smaller space elsewhere but that they are also ready to retire.

  • 3
    Part Timer Larry
    November 28th, 2008 19:39

    More customer service horror. We were in Mill Creek today to return a shirt for a smaller size. I had mistakenly cut off the tags, but had the shirt on for maybe a minute. The woman at the counter just JUMPED all over my wife about how removing the tags “voids the warranty.” I had the tags in the pocket and we had the receipt. She kept pointing to where three shirts were hung as if that explained it all. The man behind the counter did nothing to diffuse this situation, so I tried a little humor. Then this woman jumped all over me. I explained that we had shopped in that store for three years and she just needed to calm down. It was pretty ugly. I manage comuter support for a billion dollar company with 4000 users. If any of my team treated one of our customers like that they’d be in seriously hot water. We got the right sized shirt and left. After three years and hundreds of dollars, Mill Creek won’t get another penny from me.

  • 4
    Part Timer Larry
    November 29th, 2008 21:58

    More sad news. Learned today that Get A Burger’s last day is December 10. No new site apparently.

  • 5
    GG (Gossip Girl)
    November 30th, 2008 09:48

    Sorry to hear that Eric will be closing. Too bad–especially with all the empty commercial rentals across the valley.